the republicans say raise medicare eligibility. the left is completing freaking out over raising medicare eligibility and the right is freaking out about the tax rates. so they have to decide. the administration is clear that the tax rates have to go up. obama has given in on this before and so there's pressure on him. there's a lot of pressure on house democrats so i think if they can come to some sort of agreement on the rate and if republicans are willing to push the other stuff to next year, that's a deal. i mean -- >> but i think what argues against a big deal that includes any sort of cuts for instance up front on the entitlement side is republicans, if tax -- tax rates are going up either way either because you're going over a cliff or because the president will force you into a deal. they don't want to take responsibility for the economic fallout that comes. so if they agree to a big deal that includes spending cuts their fingerprints are all over it. it's likely they'll send something that extends the tax rates and say we'